side stands & strange sounds.

theweeeman · Post by **theweeeman** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:56 pm

Call me stupid if you want, but im worried, a few of my friends have had thier side stands give way on em, and i have always worried about mine, cos one friends side stand is now bent that bad, it makes the bike look strange.
Any way since owning my storm (few days), i have noticed a creaking noise around the swing arm area as the side stand takes the wieght of the bike, is this a normal sound, or should i get it looked at?????

MDJ · Post by **MDJ** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:00 pm

swingarm bearing or shock linkage may need attention?
Del will know...

RQ · Post by RQ » Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:41 pm

Yup, agree with MDJ, sounds more like a problem with the weight coming off the back, rather than an issue with the weight going on the stand. Jack the bike under the left hand rear corner of the sump with it on the side stand (only a few inches to get the rear wheel to lift) and see if it creaks on the way up.

theweeeman · Post by **theweeeman** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:22 pm

it does make a creeking noise on way up when i do that, it also does it climbing on and off or just as i stop at lights. This has only come on since i used a degreaser on the inside of the swingarm, could it have caused i dry joint? and will lubrication of swing arm mount help? It doesent affect handling but gets on me nerves. ps, is it supposed to stall as often as it does ( at least once in every journey)?

delmeekc · Post by **delmeekc** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:30 pm

Err, the only real way to be sure is to drop the rear linkage and check all the roller bearings. It's a common thing, checked a 6 month old vtr a few years back and one of the linkages was rusted solid and bike hadn't even done a winter. If one or more are seized then I should have some spare bits before you go and pay honda.

As for the stalling, get the carbs balanced up properly (while you do it buy a spigot for the front cylinder and leave it in - blank it off when not in use) and set the tickover at 1300rpm. Also get the pilot airscrews checked if the above doesn't cure the problem.

Del.

theweeeman · Post by **theweeeman** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:29 pm

could it cause probs if i left it till i srtipped down for the winter, cos i am ramoving swingarm for a polish? and is it an easy job (only done it on conventional sportsbike frames). ps can i try turning up idle speed first?

Stormin Ben · Post by **Stormin Ben** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:11 am

To be honest mate, I'd do the swingarm bearings pronto
It's not a difficult job and if it is just a dry bearing you may get away with cleaning it and re-greasing it

Only thing is you need some way of holding the bike up while you strip the back end coz if you use a paddock stand its gonna end up in a heap on the floor!!
Alternatives include a Jon Collier stand , tie downs to the garage ceiling or a jack under the engine

You'll need to remove the rear wheel
Undo the swing-arm nut
Loosen the footrest assembly slightly (no need to remove completely)
Undo and remove at least two of the linkage bolts
Then the whole assembly just pulls out
Make sure you note which spacer goes where as you pull each one out in turn to inspect the bearings
If none need replacing you should be able to do it in a couple of hours

And it is SOOO worth doing coz as Del says they're dry from new (saves weight you see!!) and after they're all cleaned and greased the back end is so much more supple (to the extend that I questioned whether I actually needed a replacement rear shock!)

Ben

PS I'm in Brum and've got a JC stand you can borrow if you need it

theweeeman · Post by **theweeeman** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:00 pm

ok i will have a go, need to sort a front paddock stand to use a jack though, so i will do it as soon as ive bought one. Cheers for advice, just a shame i will be stripping twice cos swingarm goes for polish in november.

ips · Post by **ips** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:56 pm

Ben,
The JC sounds just the job for stipping the rear end down. Were can I get one from?Are there any other stands around that will do the job?

mercury · Post by **mercury** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:15 pm

Just get one of those stands that go on the footpegs
you can work on the back and front with jack under sump.

theweeeman · Post by **theweeeman** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:15 pm

where can i get one that works on the footpegs? maybe i may change to a single sided swingarm too (make room for underseat job).

mercury · Post by **mercury** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:40 pm

Advanced Bikestands 01709588917 or look in bike shops thats where
i got mine

delmeekc · Post by **delmeekc** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:50 pm

not on the VTR as the footpeg hangers are part of the bolt that holds the swingarm on to the engine. The only stand to get is a JC one as it fits to the rear engine mounting bolt. The only thing you can't do with it is take the engine out. PM him, I couldn't do anything without one of his stands. You won't regret it.

Del.

mercury · Post by **mercury** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:21 pm

Thats a bit of a bummer i could lift it under the sub fram
with a lenght wood and some pratting around

just took my shock arm of and found play in the pivot collar (worn)
the bearings seem OK (one on swingarm)
trying to solve front end wobble could this be the problem
theres no play in swingarm bearings

John

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side stands & strange sounds.

side stands & strange sounds.

DEL