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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:10 am
by kevg
Evening/Morning to the new 'un,
just in from the pub and trying to make sense of everything,
but Hello all the same, it's more than i do for most people new or otherwise, and i'm one of the talkative ones....well Kaz haz got 20000 posts by now so maybe she talks a bit more than most, and i was lying about being talkative... :oops:
...but you'll learn who talks and who doesn't, hope to see you at the end of year meet once we decied who's house its at.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:25 am
by yellafella
Oh my head !!!!!! :P :P :P :P
Mornin all ! Welcome Girlie Biker !!!
Nuff said, gotta go to work !!!!

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:12 pm
by Syntec4
Cupa,
I just spotted this old thread. Sorry if it's a bit late.

I was an instructor with RoSPA for 3 years. I packed it in as it's a thankless expensive task, but thats another story :roll:

I have done the The RoSPA and IAM courses. They are both worthwhile, but you will find that the RoSPA is the higher standard of the 2. The RoSPA has retest every 3 years, which means that you are always upto date. The test is harder and longer with RoSPA as well. RoSPA use Serving Police officers for the test. When I did the IAM they used their own people for the test.

The IAM has their own book. RoSPA use the Roadcraft book (the police 'Bible')

RoSPA also has the diploma if you realy want to get into it. This is the closest thing a civilian can get to a Police class one rider. You need to get RoSPA gold before you can go for that.

There is a large Boring old fart factor with both groups. Some of the observers/Instructors can be a bit stuck up with both groups. I was 25 when I became an intstructor and I can say that the born agains who made up most of the pupils had a big problem with my age. They realy do not like to be given 'advice'.

The IAM makes money from the courses. RoSPA is free, you just pay the Police for the test. It's £30 in Manchester at the moment, although it may vary in other areas.

You will learn lots about observation and positioning, defensive riding etc. You will learn safer more efficient overtakes etc. Which will make you probably a bit safer and smoother, but not faster. Although you will be getting from a to b faster as you will make more use of the roads.


The other factor you make like about RoSPA is that they will allow a more sensible aproach to speed. They will never put it in writing but if you 'momentarily break the speed limit' to make a safe overtake for example, you will not get a bollocking (As long as you can explain why you needed to select that speed).

Observed runs usualy last 2/3 hours with RoSPA and not the more usual 1 hour with IAM (this may vary in some groups). Which means that I always used to make a proper run out, to Wales or the Lakes for example. When in National speed limit areas, you will be encouraged to go 'as fast as you feel comfortable' and bang on the limit in 30,40,50's. I know that the IAM dont do this, they will not allow any speeding.

If you have any more questions or need to know where you nearest RoSPA group is let me have you're postcode.

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:24 pm
by cupasoop
You have a PM. :)

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:23 pm
by Syntec4
So do you :wink:

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:23 am
by VTRgirl
how romantic :roll:

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:56 pm
by Pipstorm
Hi Ya Cuppa

Me too......I'm a slow reader, only jst got to this post.

IAM for 8 mths now, D+G group is good fun, very instructive and quite happy for a fast run. My confidence has gone up just like my corner speed, our group has a big variety of bikes from the usual Pans to Busa's, SV1000's, Blades, a few Trumpets(955's), SP1, a few 'storms and the occasional crusier/harley type thing.

If your interested give us a shout......we meet every Sun am in Dumfries Town.

Phil