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No more 250cc Two Stroke Moto GP bikes after this year?
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LotusSevenMan
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No more 250cc Two Stroke Moto GP bikes after this year?
"Only ride as fast as your guardian angel can fly" !!!
No more blue smoke & smell of Castrol R ! Sad days
I reckon 600cc is far too high a capacity if they are gonna change though. Considering the top class is only 800cc. it kinda blurs the boundries between the classes.
With the smaller stroke & bore of the 600 engine they'll just get it to rev even higher than the gp bikes & wont be far off obtaining 180 - 200 bhp at full chat.
Better off making em 400cc I reckon. Even a current world supersport 600 bike is only 1.5 sec a lap off a 250 gp machine round assen which is a pretty long circuit. Don't forget the supersports bikes have roadbike chassis & engine blocks (ok I know most other things are upgraded but the low cost & road manners are all built into a road bike which is a big disadvatage in the race world)
A clean drawing board for a 600 racebike would result in far more than a 1.5 second advantage.
I wonder if Rossi will drop down to that class, so he can add another class championship to his record.
125, 250, 500, motogp. He'll surely want a 600 gp trophy too.
I reckon 600cc is far too high a capacity if they are gonna change though. Considering the top class is only 800cc. it kinda blurs the boundries between the classes.
With the smaller stroke & bore of the 600 engine they'll just get it to rev even higher than the gp bikes & wont be far off obtaining 180 - 200 bhp at full chat.
Better off making em 400cc I reckon. Even a current world supersport 600 bike is only 1.5 sec a lap off a 250 gp machine round assen which is a pretty long circuit. Don't forget the supersports bikes have roadbike chassis & engine blocks (ok I know most other things are upgraded but the low cost & road manners are all built into a road bike which is a big disadvatage in the race world)
A clean drawing board for a 600 racebike would result in far more than a 1.5 second advantage.
I wonder if Rossi will drop down to that class, so he can add another class championship to his record.
125, 250, 500, motogp. He'll surely want a 600 gp trophy too.
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RedStormV
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Good point,
IMO 400's would be a far better option - a 'happy medium' as far as CC goes. There's already the Supersport classes and R6 cup so another would just be overkill.
Besides from a 'Green' and perhaps even a 'Safety' point of view, this might encourage development & sales of Pocket Rockets in this country again, rather than the grey imports and 'original' UK sales bikes we see now which are getting a bit long in the tooth (most of 'em anyway).
I know it would probably be playing into the Governments hands (Tory / Labour whatever!) a bit, but it's the way things are going anyway. For a kid to pass their test on a 125 (Yes I know the 2 year restriction) or restricted 500 and jump straight onto an R6 or bigger is not an ideal situation now IMO.
Besides, apart from them being a bit small for my 6' 1" frame generally, they're a hell of a lot of fun.
As for Vale46 - bring it on! I for one would love to see him do that before he eventually retires - It would be awesome viewing on either 600 or 400.
I'm still gonna get me an RS250 someday (soon I hope), bugger the anti 2-stroke to55ers! I love the revvy little buggers (2-stroke machines in general) and the smell of synth 2-stroke oil is feckin' lovely!
Still will miss the 250s - hopefully the far more interesting to watch road race scene will keep them going.
IMO 400's would be a far better option - a 'happy medium' as far as CC goes. There's already the Supersport classes and R6 cup so another would just be overkill.
Besides from a 'Green' and perhaps even a 'Safety' point of view, this might encourage development & sales of Pocket Rockets in this country again, rather than the grey imports and 'original' UK sales bikes we see now which are getting a bit long in the tooth (most of 'em anyway).
I know it would probably be playing into the Governments hands (Tory / Labour whatever!) a bit, but it's the way things are going anyway. For a kid to pass their test on a 125 (Yes I know the 2 year restriction) or restricted 500 and jump straight onto an R6 or bigger is not an ideal situation now IMO.
Besides, apart from them being a bit small for my 6' 1" frame generally, they're a hell of a lot of fun.
As for Vale46 - bring it on! I for one would love to see him do that before he eventually retires - It would be awesome viewing on either 600 or 400.
I'm still gonna get me an RS250 someday (soon I hope), bugger the anti 2-stroke to55ers! I love the revvy little buggers (2-stroke machines in general) and the smell of synth 2-stroke oil is feckin' lovely!
Still will miss the 250s - hopefully the far more interesting to watch road race scene will keep them going.
Can't see the Spanish racing fans being happy about it either, they will go fecking beserk 
125cc & 250cc is their favourite class's.I was under the impression the swap was taking place around 2011?!
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