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Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:55 pm
by Dazza2910
Since I acquired my 1999 Firestorm, I've been buying a fair few bits. So far the engine has been fully serviced and the coolant changed and bled.

Today I've cleaned the calipers up and put in new pads, pad pins and pad springs. Yet to figure out how the rear pad spring works. It was weeks ago I took them all apart!

Got a full set of HEL braided hoses and clutch line to do as well.....

Plenty more still to do....

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Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:25 pm
by Wicky
Get the pistons out as well for a polish and treat em to new seals and carefully scrape out any oxidisation from the seal recesses with a dental pick. Reassemble with some TLC and red grease and they'll be as good as new if not better with your new hoses. Make sure the rear slider pins is corrosion free and lubed up (red grease again) and the rubbers are not cut or ripped.

This'll give you an idea where the rear pad springs fit

https://www.bike-parts-honda.com/honda- ... 00/2/11510

And replace the horrid cheesey grub screws with SS allen headed ones > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-Bolt-Sta ... 2613791835

SS calliper bolts https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-VTR-10 ... 1170814566

Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:28 pm
by MacV2
The pad spring on the rear calliper sits in a recess in the body of the calliper...

If IIRC it can go in & hold either way but it has to go a certain way round as it holds the pad in place against the calliper body...The piston side one obviously moves with the piston...

The silver U shaped one locates on to the calliper carrier, this holds the pads in the right place...You need to make sure the inner pad is seated & held by this as it can drop down & can/will damage your wheel if it does...

Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:45 pm
by Dazza2910

Wicky wrote:Get the pistons out as well for a polish and treat em to new seals
This'll give you an idea where the rear pad springs fit

And replace the horrid cheesey grub screws with SS allen headed ones > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-Bolt-Sta ... 2613791835

SS calliper bolts https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-VTR-10 ... 1170814566

Pistons done. Seals done by my friend that gave me it.

Can't see on that fiche how many of those grub screws I need?

Have ordered the joint bolts. Will get some caliper mounting ones too.

Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:12 pm
by Wicky
Can't see on that fiche how many of those grub screws I need?
1 per calliper - 3 in total

Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:15 pm
by Dazza2910
Cheers.

Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:42 pm
by Dazza2910
Have changed over all bar one of the caliper joint bolts. The remaining one is going to need a bit work to get it out as it's a bit rounded (not my own doing).

Couldn't see any of those grub screws on my calipers so glad I never bought any! Checked the fiche and looks like they go in after the pad pins?

Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:45 pm
by Dazza2910
Checked the fiche and looks like they go in after the pad pins

Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:15 pm
by MacV2
Dazza2910 wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:45 pm Checked the fiche and looks like they go in after the pad pins
Correct... They do just to keep the grob out of the pad pin...

Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:43 pm
by sirch345
MacV2 wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:15 pm
Dazza2910 wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:45 pm Checked the fiche and looks like they go in after the pad pins
Correct... They do just to keep the grob out of the pad pin...
And most likely act as a 2nd stop should the pad pin come undone and work it's way out if they're not fitted,

Chris.

Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:08 pm
by MacV2
Dazza2910 wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:42 pm Have changed over all bar one of the caliper joint bolts. The remaining one is going to need a bit work to get it out as it's a bit rounded (not my own doing).

Couldn't see any of those grub screws on my calipers so glad I never bought any! Checked the fiche and looks like they go in after the pad pins?
Do you have the correct socket for the bolt heads...Torks type head...If you have them try the next size down & hammer it on, they can sieze but genrally not on that tight IIRC Torque up is 36Nm but I'd have to check that...

Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:43 pm
by Dazza2910
Definitely didn't have any of the caps when I took everything apart. Might get some, but no rush. If their torqued up, they ain't coming out.

Sure it was around 36Nm. Got the service manual so can double check. I used a 10mm socket for all the other bolts. Will double check tomorrow the stuck one isn't a torx.....

Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:59 am
by fabiostar
coppaslip grease is your friend when rebuilding brakes :clap:

Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:07 pm
by Dazza2910
Yup. Not my first time!!

Amazed that despite the bikes age and the fact it's been sitting for so long, pretty much every bolt has been easy to get out. Gotta love Honda's!

Re: Today's task - brakes

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:09 pm
by Dazza2910
Looking much better now. Found the original little caps. My friend and I were both working on the bike when we stripped bits off so he must have removed them. Not putting original ones back in though. Still not sure I'll bother with new ones either.

Calipers looking much better though!Image