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Evenin all!

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:56 pm
by Beef
Hi,

I have me a Firestorm track bike, don't know anything in detail about the model so will be asking all sorts of bone questions at times!

Searched about clutch slipping at high rpms (slips a bit in 4th, 5th & 6th around 7-8500rpm), I shall change the oil for a mineral oil/semi synth as recommended...problem is, I don't have anywhere to see if that fixes it until the next track day! :?

Brakes are a bit lacking in initial bite but with practice I was scrubbing off speed from 9000rpm to a 3rd gear corner from the 100m marker (I was more than happy with that!)

How easy is it to see if the stopper mod has been done (5 mins, 10 mins - an hour?)

Anyway, rode my first 'Storm back in 2001 when I swapped bikes with my mate and really liked it then, so when I was offered this track bike, I didn't need asking twice!!

My other steeds are a 91 S1 Lightning & 2012 Multistrada :D

Re: Evenin all!

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:23 pm
by grumpyfrog
Welcome to the nuthouse Beef.
Someone will come along soon and point you in the right direction about your questions. I just break them, so no point in asking me...
Where abouts are you from? might be someone near abouts that can give some guidance.

Grump

Re: Evenin all!

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:41 pm
by AMCQ46
you can test to see if the stopper mod is done in about 10 mins.

1) take the 8mm bolt out of the end of the rear cyl CCT [it will leak oil, but don't worry]
2) put a small flat blade screwdriver in the opening
3) locate the slot in the end of the tensioner screw, turning CW when looking for the slot so you don't inadvertently unwind the CCT too far
4) once you are located in the tensioner screw slot, turn the screwdriver CCW, but no more than 1 1/2 turns.
5) if you have a stopper fitted, you will hit a hard stop before you get to 1.5 turns, if you don't hit a stop, you don't have stoppers.
6) put screw back in and start engine and the CCT will wind its self back to correct tension

Re: Evenin all!

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:27 pm
by alanfjones1411
Hello and welcome to the forum beef.You will find the answers to all your questions on this forum along with a bit of banter.Where are you based it's always handy to know as you may need help with some things.

Re: Evenin all!

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:57 pm
by Beef
Thanks guys- always up for a bit of banter :thumbup: , I am Just South of Reading. Only moved in end of last year and house is a complete renovation project so (much to my disgust) spannering bikes is low priority at the moment. I have 2 days at Snetterton booked mid July so I really need to get her sorted for then........

Re: Evenin all!

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:01 pm
by fabiostar
Fireblade brakes and EBC clutch and go ride like a god.
welcome along by the way :thumbup: .
pictures pictures or it didnt happen..

Re: Evenin all!

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:05 pm
by Kev L
Welcome to the club Beef :thumbup:

Re: Evenin all!

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:55 pm
by sirch345
Welcome aboard Beef :thumbup:

As Al (AMQQ46) says regarding checking if you have the Stopper mod fitted.

**EDIT**
Although after having another read of Al's reply, I'm sure he has No's 3 and 4 the wrong way around. Turning the screwdriver clockwise retracts the CCT plunger. That's what you need to be doing to see if it comes up against the Stopper if one has been fitted,

Chris.

Re: Evenin all!

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:13 pm
by AMCQ46
sirch345 wrote:Welcome aboard Beef :thumbup:

As Al (AMQQ46) says regarding checking if you have the Stopper mod fitted.

**EDIT**
Although after having another read of Al's reply, I'm sure he has No's 3 and 4 the wrong way around. Turning the screwdriver clockwise retracts the CCT plunger. That's what you need to be doing to see if it comes up against the Stopper if one has been fitted,

Chris.
cheers Chris, that was an important error

Re: Evenin all!

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:22 pm
by popkat
Fit some new clutch springs, either standard or slightly firmer ones, while your there measure the plates with a micrometer, or vernier will do, specs will be in the workshop manual (which I think is one here somewhere ?) if ok then re use them, check steel plates for any blueing which they might have if it's been slipping lot, clean them and rough them up slightly and the they should be good again.
Clutches last well on these bikes, I find most times when a clutch starts to slip it only needs new springs, but it maybe knackered if it's been subjected to prolonged slipping.

Also make sure the clutch pushrod is clean and not gummed up with old chain lube and bleed the clutch through with fresh fluid.



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Re: Evenin all!

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:22 am
by Shauned71
Heya :wave: welcome to the forums :thumbup:

Re: Evenin all!

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:07 am
by tony.mon
I have a set of kevlar fibre plates and uprated springs ready to fit if you need them.
Used, but known good, came from a tuned engine and capable of handling more than std power.
Comes with spring retainers modded with ti dished top washers instead of the steel flat washers as std.

All you will need is a clutch cover gasket.

Tip: when removing clutch slave, either cable tie the piston in to stop it fully extending and allowing air in or remove the clutch lever.
There's a spring inside which pushes the piston out if you don't.

Re: Evenin all!

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:06 am
by Beef
Some great advice, thanks all. I will let you all know the outcome when I can find the time to look - especially the offer of the clutch.

Watch this space :thumbup: .....................