My 1st track day - Cadwell Park

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My 1st track day - Cadwell Park

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Thought I would write a little review of my 1st track day as I know there are those of you that haven't done one yet and may be tempted. This might give you an idea of what to expect.

To sum up the experience in brief - Epic. Best experience of my life. Addictive. 4 sessions for £45 is unbelievable value when you consider a full day with 6 sessions is more than double.

I was very nervous on the morning of the day, mainly about crashing and writing off my bike and/or hurting myself. I rode all the way there which is about 95 miles and almost 2 hours. With hindsight I think that was a mistake and wish I had a trailer. The ride back was uncomfortable as I was aching after being on the track.

Anyway I rode over there with my brother and arrived about 30 minutes before the briefing. To be honest the instructions when you get there are not very clear. I met up with Flatty and he pointed us in the direction of the briefing area where we had to sign some forms and get a wrist band to say we had signed. We took our bikes to the noise tester and all passed OK including Flatty's storm. We then had a very brief briefing which was basically to tell us which flag meant which thing. There was no real instruction with the lines to take or how to over take / not overtake etc. I was a little underwhelmed to be honest, but they pointed us in the direction of the tyre van that would lower our pressures and left us to our own devices.

After a short while there was a tannoy announcement to say the blue group to the waiting area. We hadn't even been told where the waiting area was, so my brother and I were a little late. The rest of the group had already gone out onto the track and done 1 lap. By the time we waited for a gap to get in, they were nearly done with the 3 sighting laps. They let us on and left us to it.

First time out I went pretty steady. I was getting overtaken by nearly everyone other than this one guy on a blade the same as mine. He pretty much stopped for every corner. I didn't really know if my tyres were warm or not, so I didn't push too hard. I was actually quite glad when I saw the chequered flag. Gave me a chance to come in and relax as I was shaking from the rush of it all.

As there were only 2 groups, the waiting time between sessions felt a little too quick. We only had 10 minutes to rest then we were called back to the starting area. Also it meant that there was a mixture of novice and inters in our group. Quite a few of them on dedicated track bikes that were flying round. Made it quite difficult to concentrate when there were people flying past all the time. So second time out, we started at the front. Flatty grabbed an instructor and went of at the back so that he could show him the racing lines. Ill let him comment on how he thought that went.

Second time out was much better. Was still quite difficult as we were getting overtaken quite a lot with starting at the front, but a few laps in we were on clear track and it was unbelievable. I have honestly never done anything close to that before. The track was perfectly smooth and felt much wider than it looked on the videos. It's like both lanes of a wideish B road or normal A road. The series of right handers, into a quick left, down the hill and sharp left at the bottom was insane. It was so much fun when I got it right, but the track was wide enough that I felt comfortable enough when I got the lines wrong.

Third time out my brother, Flatty and I started at the back. Probably the best session in the end for me, we didn't get overtaken until about 2 laps before the end as we got lapped, but we worked our way through the traffic. My brother got past a load that I got stuck behind so ended up a way out in front. I never caught him, but I really felt I pushed hard trying and it was insanely good. Watch for the turn in cone, turn, try to hit the apex cone and smoothly accelerate out of the corner. Epic. I found that my bike was a lot faster than I knew, and it was a lot faster than a lot of other bikes on the track which helped. I didn't have the confidence to overtake on the corners as I had seen a few people panic, brake and run wide. Didn't really fancy being side swiped. But if I left a little room behind someone and nailed a corner properly, I could come out the other side with a 20mph or so advantage, and out accelerate most of them so get past on the straights. I had a few of the faster ones take me on the corners or braking into corners, only to get left behind as we came out the other side onto the straight.

Last time out I stayed behind my brother most of the way to try and get a good video. We were both going much faster than we had been 1st time out, and both of us loving every minute of it. Anyway, this video below is the last couple of laps of the last session.

After the first session I lost that nervousness and that fear of crashing as it becomes clear that it's just like riding on the road. Ride within my limits and ill be fine, push it and try to keep up with people more experienced, ill probably come off. Exactly the same as on the road, if you push too hard, you will fail. I think it's all about a little bit of self discipline not to get carried away and to keep within your limits.

I will 110% do this again. Ill book into the novice group again, and this time ill pick a session with 3 groups so I get only novice riders in my group. I would expect from what I saw at Cadwell ill be able to keep up with the faster ones in that group after a couple of sessions, which will be good.

Flatty mentioned organising a Donnington Storm meet, get a few of us there and make a weekend of it. I hope he posts something up soon :D

Lap times - worked out from the videos were:
2nd Session (started at the front, hardly any traffic until the end)
Lap 1 (disregarding first 2 warming up tyres) - 02:19
Lap 2 - 02:15
Lap 3 - 02:12
Lap 4 - 02:12
Lap 5 - 02:23 (started to lap some really slow ones)
Lap 6 - 02:22

3rd Session (started at the back so had lots of traffic all laps)
Lap 1 - 02:15
Lap 2 - 02:14
Lap 3 - 02:11
Lap 4 - 02:14
Lap 5 - 02:08

4th Session (started at the back so had lots of traffic all laps)
Lap 1 - 02:17
Lap 2 - 02:13
Lap 3 - 02:10
Lap 4 - 02:08

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Glad you had such a good day and the weather was perfect for it. Sounds like you where being very sensible and got what you needed from the experience. You will likely push it a little more next time. Very impressive price, that was a cheap fun day out. Well done. :thumbup: So what pressure did they end up putting in the tyres?

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I'm itching to do one this year :-)
Who did you book it with ?
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:clap: great write up mate . will do one at snetterton one day when i get my act together . the price where you were seems very good :thumbup:

the idea of taking the bike on a trailer makes sense though.
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lloydie wrote:I'm itching to do one this year :-)
Who did you book it with ?
It was with nolimits.

Pressures were reduced from 42 back 36 front to 27 back and 21 front. Pretty low eh?

Lloydie how about oulton park in a few weeks? I think my brother and will be booking it soon.

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Bit to far for me :-( I will be doing one but September time :-£
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Well done in giving it ago :clap: Good write-up and interesting to hear how it all went :thumbup:
That sounds excellent value for the money.

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Pressures were reduced from 42 back 36 front to 27 back and 21 front. Pretty low eh?
Wow that must have felt strange. So is the object of letting about a 1/4 out that your doing higher speeds, therefore more heat so they will expand or to have some flex in the rubber so there is more of a contact area when leaning over in the bends. :think:

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cybercarl wrote:
Pressures were reduced from 42 back 36 front to 27 back and 21 front. Pretty low eh?
Wow that must have felt strange. So is the object of letting about a 1/4 out that your doing higher speeds, therefore more heat so they will expand or to have some flex in the rubber so there is more of a contact area when leaning over in the bends. :think:

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Yeah they run much hotter which increases air pressure in there. I think if you run road pressures they will get too high and blow out.

After a session if you touch the tyres they are really hot. Not just like warm they get on the road, they are actually hot.

Doesn't feel weird at all though, felt so grippy and planted in the corners.

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Those pressures are too low, unless your tyres are Dunlop sprotsmarts ? which are designed to run low pressures. Normally for most tyres your looking to bring pressures down to 30 ish.
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popkat wrote:Those pressures are too low, unless your tyres are Dunlop sprotsmarts ? which are designed to run low pressures. Normally for most tyres your looking to bring pressures down to 30 ish.
Yeah I was running sport smart tyres, why can they run lower than usual then?

What is usual pressure?

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good going there ziggy
great video and pics
what camera were you using
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my mates doing cadwell later today...... :thumbup:
looks like you had alot of fun ziggy........ :wink:
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Here are some more pictures from Friday night
Hall Bends Miztaziggy 4th, brother 2nd
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Hall Bends Brother 2nd Miztaziggy 3rd
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Miztaziggy
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Flatline
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Hairpin Corner Miztaziggy
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Miztaziggy's Brother
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Waiting to go
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Hairpin Corner Flatline 2nd
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Looks like a good day. I can not wait to get one booked. Not sure how loud my cans are though so may need some DB killers.

Flatline.... how was the storm on the track?
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