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Got my storm back on the road the other day after new motor been stuck in it and every thing seems fine....until you ride it.
If I hold it about 4-5rpm it stutters thru the rev range in all gears. I have stripped the carbs more then once today and checked coil packs plus plugs.
Using 190 jets with two turns on the pilot screws. Needle hight is on number
4. Pulling the coke on don't help still does it.. like trying to ride a bull :(

Any idea?
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Check all hoses are fitted correctly, unkinked and with no leaks - esp the vacuum hose that fits to the fuel tap, round the back not the more obvious but wrong 'spigot' on the bottom.
4. Pulling the coke on don't help still does it.. like trying to ride a bull
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Wicky wrote:Check all hoses are fitted correctly, unkinked and with no leaks - esp the vacuum hose that fits to the fuel tap, round the back not the more obvious but wrong 'spigot' on the bottom.
4. Pulling the coke on don't help still does it.. like trying to ride a bull
Try cracking open a pepsi, failing that a redbull and hang on tight

If that where the case then the bike would run rough from tick over?
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thumperslaw wrote:Got my storm back on the road the other day after new motor been stuck in it and every thing seems fine....until you ride it.
If I hold it about 4-5rpm it stutters thru the rev range in all gears. I have stripped the carbs more then once today and checked coil packs plus plugs.
Using 190 jets with two turns on the pilot screws. Needle hight is on number
4. Pulling the coke on don't help still does it.. like trying to ride a bull :(

Any idea?
Shouldn't the main jets be different for the front and back carbs or am I imagining that? Someone who knows will be along soon.....

Worth checking the vacuum hose placement though. It has been done before.
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Stratman wrote:
thumperslaw wrote:Got my storm back on the road the other day after new motor been stuck in it and every thing seems fine....until you ride it.
If I hold it about 4-5rpm it stutters thru the rev range in all gears. I have stripped the carbs more then once today and checked coil packs plus plugs.
Using 190 jets with two turns on the pilot screws. Needle hight is on number
4. Pulling the coke on don't help still does it.. like trying to ride a bull :(

Any idea?
Shouldn't the main jets be different for the front and back carbs or am I imagining that? Someone who knows will be along soon.....

Worth checking the vacuum hose placement though. It has been done before.
Think I my of got to the bottom of it now!
I washed the k&n filter and my of over oiled it :crazy:

Always netted both carbs the same and worked well for me
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As standard the jet sizes are slightly different front and rear, but with a jet kit they are often recommended to be the same.

Get it on a dyno and if the operator's skilled enough and experienced with Storms he'll be able to try both options and show you the differences on the charts.
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That's the next step is get it fine tuned on dyno. First I want to get it running right.
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Going to change the the front coil pack see if that helps :(
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sounds very much like the problems ziggy had with his & turned out to be a bad tankfull of fuel.
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benny hedges wrote:sounds very much like the problems ziggy had with his & turned out
to be a bad tankfull of fuel.
Done the whole fuel thing and still running right.
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So far i have re-jetted again and still no joy
Done
Full compression test
Leak down test
Checked fuel lines
changed exhaust
changed carbs
cleaned carbs
checked coil packs
checked spark plugs
Done cam timing

And...........Still not got to the bottom of it all!
Aghhhhh
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I washed the k&n filter
Try a standard OEM air filter to try and get everything back to 'normal'.
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I would but that means changing full system and going back to standard jetting :?
Coasting me loads of money changing things left right and centre :(
Just got some emission tubes coming
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thumperslaw wrote:I would but that means changing full system and going back to standard jetting :?
Coasting me loads of money changing things left right and centre :(
Just got some emission tubes coming
Not if it's just for test purposes.

Just try running the bike with no filter in the airbox for a mile or two.
It won't do any damage over that short time.
If it runs ok, it's your over-enthusiastic oiling of the filter- you won't be the first.
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tony.mon wrote:
thumperslaw wrote:I would but that means changing full system and going back to standard jetting :?
Coasting me loads of money changing things left right and centre :(
Just got some emission tubes coming
Not if it's just for test purposes.

Just try running the bike with no filter in the airbox for a mile or two.
It won't do any damage over that short time.
If it runs ok, it's your over-enthusiastic oiling of the filter- you won't be the first.
Done that with the air box already
Clean air filter and let it dry then ran it. Still same
Oiled it no joy
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