think Ive messed up the timing trying to sort out the problems Ive got. got one of the chains stuck and had to remove cam sprockets now cant seem to get all 4 right. been following the Honda workshop manual but had to remove all cam sprockets.
Ive got front cams and rear exhaust right but for some reason inlet is around 90 degrees out.
not sure which FT or RT Im on,
what is the best way to get front tdc ? coming off the front piston?
asking because manual says if front hasn't been off , or rear hasn't been off but both have been removed.
having problems not being able to get on a ramp so grovelling around on the floor with ban knees and hip!!
screwed up the timing
Re: screwed up the timing
Look in the knowledge base for fitting manual tensioners, in there are pictures of the cams in position. I'd say remove all cams and start again.
Measure twice cut once springs to mind.. always mark the position, most phones have camera's take pictures, a bit of prep early on saves a lot of grief later on.
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Measure twice cut once springs to mind.. always mark the position, most phones have camera's take pictures, a bit of prep early on saves a lot of grief later on.
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2014 CRMC Post classic Superbike champion.
2014 CRMC Post classic senior production champion. On a Suzuki Katana 1100
My bikes, Firestorm, Suzuki GSX-s1000 Katana, VFR800Fi. Projects, 1986 popup Katana, 3 XJ600’s
Re: screwed up the timing
Easy way to get yourself out of this one is to take out all four cams, hook the chains up and over a screwdriver on each head then rotate the engine to either ft or rt mark.
Whichever it is, then reinstall the cams for that cylinder, then fit that cylinders cct. Then rotate the engine the correct amount to do the same to the other cylinder.
As said, following the knowledgeable instructions is the key.
You can't cause any damage rotating the engine with the cams out and you can't be on the wrong mark.
Just keep checking that the cam chains aren't snagging as you rotate the engine, if it won't move tug on both cam chains and it'll free off.
Whichever it is, then reinstall the cams for that cylinder, then fit that cylinders cct. Then rotate the engine the correct amount to do the same to the other cylinder.
As said, following the knowledgeable instructions is the key.
You can't cause any damage rotating the engine with the cams out and you can't be on the wrong mark.
Just keep checking that the cam chains aren't snagging as you rotate the engine, if it won't move tug on both cam chains and it'll free off.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.
Re: screwed up the timing
Cybercarls link here with photo's showing the valve timing settings:-
http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/viewtopic ... 31&t=28583
Chris.
http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/viewtopic ... 31&t=28583
Chris.
Re: screwed up the timing
brain fade time.
assumed as one pair of cams pointed up and in the others did as well duh
re read for the time and see other pair are out and up.
done these before in March , you wouldn't believe it...
started first press of the button with what fuel was in carbs.
just seems to be a knock on front cylinder , but am running without air box so grabbing a coffee and waiting to cool again and re check clearances and timing lines..
I suppose this is what comes of working on many different types and makes of bike.. currently 250-1200 , Brit, Jap, Italian, American all in various states at least got rid of the Chinese .
assumed as one pair of cams pointed up and in the others did as well duh
re read for the time and see other pair are out and up.
done these before in March , you wouldn't believe it...
started first press of the button with what fuel was in carbs.
just seems to be a knock on front cylinder , but am running without air box so grabbing a coffee and waiting to cool again and re check clearances and timing lines..
I suppose this is what comes of working on many different types and makes of bike.. currently 250-1200 , Brit, Jap, Italian, American all in various states at least got rid of the Chinese .
Re: screwed up the timing
That's sounding more positive. As someone else mentioned in another thread, taking some photo's as you go is a good idea. Plus if you save them they are handy at a later date, which would be good for you what with working on different bikes,chaz wrote:brain fade time.
assumed as one pair of cams pointed up and in the others did as well duh
re read for the time and see other pair are out and up.
done these before in March , you wouldn't believe it...
started first press of the button with what fuel was in carbs.
just seems to be a knock on front cylinder , but am running without air box so grabbing a coffee and waiting to cool again and re check clearances and timing lines..
I suppose this is what comes of working on many different types and makes of bike.. currently 250-1200 , Brit, Jap, Italian, American all in various states at least got rid of the Chinese .
Chris.