you nearly had me there for a minute, Al, you should think about becoming an MPAMCQ46 wrote:and if they take the points off Marc,to balance the impact to Dani, then Lorenzo is the big winner.............which isnt fair.
at least in BSB and the Sam Lowes incident, that felt like a fair decision as it zeroed the impact on the championship for the only real contenders
so do we dock the points from Marc and Jorge to make it fair on Dani ............. then there will be a claim that the organisers are favouring Rossi
I'm not sure talking points away would be the right answer (as Salty Dog says), but I do think Marquez needs to tidy up his act somewhat and have a little more respect for his fellow racers especially now he's in the top class of Moto GP. I think he is making cleaner passes more so now than he did earlier on in the season, although IMHO there is still more work to be done in that area. You can't take it away from him that he is probably the best talent we've seen since Rossi appeared, and he is only in his first year in this class, so will have a lot still to learn for sure. He has had quite a few near misses already this year by riding so close to the guy in front, I just hope it doesn't end up him taking himself and someone else out due to his style of riding.
It's worth watching Carl, although to be fair the battle for third position was more exciting.cybercarl wrote:Wow sounds like I missed a good race. I have it on DVR so may watch that tonight. What's a DNF?
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seb421 wrote:For me rubbins racing but as you know I'm a Pedrosa fan i was gutted when it happened
it was clear to see there was contact but it was nothing we hadn't seen before from Rossi, i don't believe it was deliberate it was just Marquez was overly keen to get past and ran in too hot he did well not to wipe Dani out on the spot
I read on Monday moaning via Motogp website that the rear wheel speed sensor cable had been detached / dislodged in the clash hence Pedrosa spinning it up when he gave it a handful, he said if you expect traction control to be their when you open the gas and its not it spits you off, but if I had known there was no TC i wouldn't have opened it up, its said he's not badly injured and should be good for the next race
i think the championship is marquez but saying that stoner did make a mess of his ankle with an unexpected crash which without he probably would have taken another championship last year so you never know....
Good to know Seb Dani is okay, although gutted will almost certainly be an understatement. I'm sure it wasn't deliberate either, and it's the first time I have ever heard of that happening. Perhaps we need to get back to basic's, and let the skill of the riders have more of an input into who's top dog, by taking away all these electric gizmo's
That was my sentiments (1st post), it's not over yet, but Marquez is looking very good for the championship right now as you say.
I didn't know that.turbo_billy wrote:They showed a video of it on MotoGP.com and the speed sensor wire for the rear wheel was cut in two.
Stop giving them ideas Tonytony.mon wrote:Yeah, but now everyone knows how to take him out they'll all be trying it....
Didn't they say Dani's front tyre would have been the better choice for the latter stages of the race, unlike Lorenzo's or Marquez's tyre choice. Unfortunate Dani didn't make it to the latter stages so we'll never know.darkember wrote:It was a pity but Dani did make his own mistake, Mark was just pressuring him. As it transpired the hard compound was the incorrect choice on Dani's machine & I reckon it would have been a matter of time before Mark would have passed him even had he not binned it.
I reckon that's what Lorenzo was thinking when he realised Marquez was closing in on him by letting him pass. He would rather have him in front where he could see him, than have him dive bomb him and risk being taken out. 20 points is better than none.Salty Dog wrote:My point exactly! In regards to the commentators poor calling of the incident (and its not just that occasion either, they are making a habit of poor calling)turbo_billy wrote:They showed a video of it on MotoGP.com and the speed sensor wire for the rear wheel was cut in two.
I too read all the that was MotoGP.com.....
I find it interesting regarding the TC wire? Where is the wire exactly, mounted on the tire... Mmmmmmmm
Rubbing is racing, sure.... But Dive Bombing is another thing altogether.
Its actually being outlawed in other forms of motor sport.
Yep, Marquez is young, full of confidence, no doubt.... But as Stoner said of Rossi a few times, there is racing and then there is dive bombing.
I'm not a Pedrosa fan, or a Lorenzo fan... i'd actually like to see Marquez win MotoGP on his first year in.
But there is a way to go about it....
Perhaps just a late brake and panic moment..... either way, i still can not believe the commentary team said there was no contact... the muppets!
Yes, he did later come out to say there was contact, the next day.
I know its a hard call, and many people say Pedrosa came off from his own doing, but when i watched the footage, the second Marquez contacted Pedrosas rear wheel, you see a black line being layed down as Pedrosa gets on the gas until he highsides.
Whether that be produced by the force of the impact shoving him off line or the TC or both.... It still happened as a result of Marquez's contact the way i see it.
I don't think it was a matter for deducting points, it would probably fall under a racing incident.
Chris.