manual ccts

[stormerdan]

Hey all.

Can anyone point me in the right direction regarding sourcing a set of manual ccts?

mine seem fine at the moment but looking to make it death proof before the season starts.

much appreciated.

Dan

[steveb]

Dan,

The link Mike has put up - you'll find most of the owners on this website have these fitted - Tray is the saviour of all Firestorms!!

[bigrich]

CCT's are something I have been wanting to fit and never got round to it - plus i dont know if it might already have them, im not great with the mechanics but before I buy some manuals, I wondered if there was a quick and easy way to find out if it has manuals already.

has anyone got any pictures of what they look like fitted, both originals and manuals?

Cheers in advance!

[AMCQ46]

not the best photo, but if the CCT looks like this [well the right hand section as the bits from the flange to the left are in the engine]


The rear CCT is easy to see as it is on the back of the cylinder just above the RH footpeg

If it looks like a bolt threaded into the flange, then you have manuals

[bigrich]

just took this picture of it (well i think its it!) can you tell from this if its a manual or standard?

[bandsawman]

Photo taken from right hand side of bike - this is the standard, automatic CCT fitted by Honda (circled in red):



Now, either fit manual ones, or do the stopper mod on them - but don't just ride with them standard because they WILL fail at some point. And you don't get ANY warning! Trust me, I know

[bandsawman]

Yes, yours are standard - unfortunately

[bigrich]

poo! cheers for the heads up lads....now, wheres that nice bloke selling the manuals!

[bandsawman]

Have a read of this:

http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/viewtopic ... 32#p149552

[bigrich]

aye i read that and it made me finally get round to doing something about it, ive had my bike 4 years now so been lucky with it so far!

[tony.mon]

It's worth adding, in case anyone else who's looking for info searches for this thread, that you can also have manuals which are conversions made from the originals- I use these sometimes as it makes the front one easier to adjust, as it's taller than the bolt-type ones.

You can spot these by the threaded bolt section poking out of the top, with a locknut which sets where the small end cap bolt is on the originals. The bolt will stick out 10-25mm, and has an 8mm thread, so is easy to spot.

What you can't see is whether it has a "stopper mod" fitted, which is small section of metal inside which stops the plunger fully retracting if the spring fails.
You can only tell by completely dismantling the CCT, then if there's a short (11-12mm) piece of rod inside the plunger tube, then it has one.

But although CCT's with a stopper mod are safer than the original, you will still get spring failure at some stage, so going to proper manuals is in my opinion a better solution long-term,although it means occasional adjustment.

[bigrich]

cheers Tony, how often do you need to adjust, and how do you know when to?

[tony.mon]

It'll start to sound a tiny bit rattly, and you can just nip them up a flat or two on the bolt while the engine's running and hear when the rattling goes quiet.

But be careful- keep a spanner on the end of the adjuster at all times if you do it while the engine's running.
Otherwise, one flat at a time with the engine off, nip it up and restart.

You won't need to do this very often, maybe once or twice a year unless the bike has a lot of miles put on it.
Every other drive chain adjustment seems about right.

But like everything else, if it's ok, leave it alone.

[bigrich]

cheers for that tony, dont use it much at all these days not enough time! so wont need too much adjusting

[benny hedges]

cheers Tony, how often do you need to adjust, and how do you know when to?

i did 12k+ on mine since i replace the apes with the ones off tray last year without adjusting them and it still sounds bob on.
dont believe people who say you have to constantly adjust them - theyre talking shite.
tony's once a year check is correct
i'll probably check mine again before i put it back on the road but tbh i dont think it needs touching.