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Re: *** IMPORTANT*** Swingarm and linkage bearings servicing

Post by sirch345 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:24 am

I'll second that TP :!: :) Those parts are looking like new :!:

Chris.

PS. I like the idea of the bleed nipple caps too.
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Re: *** IMPORTANT*** Swingarm and linkage bearings servicing

Post by tony.mon » Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:39 pm

Good job, and at a good price, too.

But the smaller end of the dog bone isn't fitted with a greasing point, and it's that one which seems in most danger of collapsing- (see the picture in the first post in this thread for why it's needed) so how does it help?

Granted, the two longer bolts and their bearings are now sorted, though.

Just drilling, tapping and fitting a grease nipple won't do it, as the needle bearing has a complete external cage, and so won't permit grease to reach the rollers.

I'm thinking a modified bolt might be needed, with a small hole drilled from one end and a transverse hole to the bearing rollers connected to it.

Shouldn't weaken the bolt too much, and a grease nipple can then be fitted at the bolt head for lubing.

Or are we still going to dismantle that bolt every so often to regrease the needle bearing?
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Re: *** IMPORTANT*** Swingarm and linkage bearings servicing

Post by Twinpotter » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:29 am

Hi All, cheers all for your comments.

Point taken Tony on the lower bearing although on dismantling, that one was still packed with grease and in fine order (believe it or not) and I suspect that it doesn't get so much punishment as the bearing directly above the pipe. Indeed, seems like a manual annual job.

See yis oot there. And show us yer nipples!

Bob

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Post by bandsawman » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:28 pm

I've just tackled mine - and I have to say that I wish I'd have read this thread a bit more thoroughly first...

I spent more time trying to suspend the back of the bike than it took to do the job (not literally, but you get the point) - if only I'd read this:
Beast wrote:I found that by cutting a couple of lenghs off 2x4 the right size and wedging them between top of swing arm and subframe bar (the round one that travels accross under the battery tray) i didnt have to jack the bike up in anyway. ;)
:oops:

Ah well. The holes I made in the plasterboard garage ceiling to pass the straps over the joists aren't that noticable anyway...

I can't believe the condition of some of the linkages shown in this thread.
My bike is totally standard (no hugger or fairing lowers), is 11 years old, has done 34,000 miles, gets used and abused in all weathers (winter salt - yuk, I wash it off in the spring, whether it needs it or not) - but when I stripped the suspension linkage it was in great condition! Ok, one bolt needed a whack with a phosphor-bronze bar and a lump hammer, and the grease was almost completely gone, but generally in great condition. And the cast ally linkage? How do Honda make ally bits that resilient?! Which makes me even more puzzled as to why they did nothing about the CCT problem :?

I'll be building the suspension linking back up tomorrow, then I can rest assured that I won't have to worry about it again for quite some time :)
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Re: *** IMPORTANT*** Swingarm and linkage bearings servicing

Post by bandsawman » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:34 pm

Twinpotter - I was just going to ask you if you're a professional photographer as your pics in this thread are awesome!
Then I looked at your profile... that explains it! :)

Yes, very impressive pics :wink:
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Re: *** IMPORTANT*** Swingarm and linkage bearings servicing

Post by darkember » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:31 am

Anybody know where I would be able to source the 2 major parts described in this thread. I have been trawling http://motorcycle.partsale.co.uk/honda/honda-vtr but cannot find any? Are there any other sites out there that I should be looking at? Thanks

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Re: *** IMPORTANT*** Swingarm and linkage bearings servicing

Post by Wicky » Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:15 pm

Bearings and dust seals ordered from http://www.bikebearings.co.uk, plus a new bolt and collar from DS (David Silvers)
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Re: *** IMPORTANT*** Swingarm and linkage bearings servicing

Post by darkember » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:56 pm

Damn I hate old age :Argue 1: I have been splitting the aluminum swing arm linkage & have not been able to read the details on the larger single bearing end. Even my son cant read it. The front 2 are 1720's & we believe the solitary one at the other end is 1725. We also believe all the dust shields are the same size. Is anybody here able to confirm this?? Thanks

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Post by Wicky » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:07 pm

Part dimensions are in the description:

http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26 ... K_ABSORBER
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Post by darkember » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:38 pm

Wicky wrote:Part dimensions are in the description:

http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26 ... K_ABSORBER
This is good but it still does not give me the bearing size for item 20. Their part number is no help. Notice item 17 they are all 1720 bearing size.

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Re: *** IMPORTANT*** Swingarm and linkage bearings servicing

Post by Wicky » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:50 pm

Searching for the common Honda part no. gives a few references to the size: ID 17, OD 24, W 25

Suspension Linkage Needle Bearing No. 20, part no. 91071-KV3-005 17x24x25

Available from DS: http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/part ... mber_9649/
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Re: *** IMPORTANT*** Swingarm and linkage bearings servicing

Post by darkember » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:20 pm

Wicky wrote:Searching for the common Honda part no. gives a few references to the size: ID 17, OD 24, W 25

Suspension Linkage Needle Bearing No. 20, part no. 91071-KV3-005 17x24x25

Available from DS: http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/part ... mber_9649/
Perfect thanks the number 17/24/25. On the bearings themselves it will be stamped 1725 indicating ID & width. I needed to verify that number but wont be paying DS prices. I use this place instead.

http://shop.marksman-ind.com/ta172425ue ... 3621-p.asp

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Re: *** IMPORTANT*** Swingarm and linkage bearings servicing

Post by Jamoi » Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:32 pm

Hi guys, I have dismantled my shock linkages to prep for powdercoating. Was planning on putting new bearings & seals in when they are ready.

Am I right in thinking to refresh this assembly...
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...I will need x6: No.21, x4: No.20 & x1: No.18...?

This is turning out to be a pricey little job!
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Has anyone made a note of aftermarket alternatives? I see above No.20 is avaliable from that bike bearings place.



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Re: *** IMPORTANT*** Swingarm and linkage bearings servicing

Post by Jamoi » Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:35 pm

Jamoi wrote:This is turning out to be a pricey little job! ****as per pic below****
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Has anyone made a note of aftermarket alternatives? I see above *****in darkember's link****** No.20 is avaliable from that bike bearings place.



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Re: *** IMPORTANT*** Swingarm and linkage bearings servicing

Post by Duffy1964 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:05 pm

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Here you go Jamie, I got these off ebay, not fitted yet as for my fighter, but way cheaper than David Silver :thumbup:
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