Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

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sirch345 wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:19 pm

What an amazing find :clap:

Another option if you're not getting maximum rev's, is to use one twin choke carb per cylinder :wink: :shh: Not that you want to be making new inlet manifolds I'm sure :)

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:lol: Now that's a thought :thumbup:

I did a similar thing years ago Chris, I made a 4 into 2 manifold for a pair of Dhla Dellorto 40's for an old mini.

I made it from stainless, it was smart too. Never tried it on an engine though & eventually binned it in a council skip :crazy: Air speed would be too slow for atomisation apparently :problem:

It was 1987 & love was in the air... Women, more trouble than any friggin manifolds Ill tell ya :lol:
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Varastorm wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:06 am
sirch345 wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:19 pm

What an amazing find :clap:

Another option if you're not getting maximum rev's, is to use one twin choke carb per cylinder :wink: :shh: Not that you want to be making new inlet manifolds I'm sure :)

Chris.
:lol: Now that's a thought :thumbup:

I did a similar thing years ago Chris, I made a 4 into 2 manifold for a pair of Dhla Dellorto 40's for an old mini.

I made it from stainless, it was smart too. Never tried it on an engine though & eventually binned it in a council skip :crazy: Air speed would be too slow for atomisation apparently :problem:

It was 1987 & love was in the air... Women, more trouble than any friggin manifolds Ill tell ya :lol:
:lol: those were the day's, they just went too quick :crazy:

Getting back to your project, see how the bike goes with what you have already, if it starts to run out of steam at higher rev's, see if it's a huge problem first would be my thoughts. At least you have plenty of options carb-wise now :thumbup:

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just a curved ball here. have you checked out any Lectron carbs? as in from race bikes of yore :eek2 . they run a powerjet system that for want of a better way of putting it, give the engine an extra juice boost.
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sirch345 wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:44 pm Getting back to your project, see how the bike goes with what you have already, if it starts to run out of steam at higher rev's, see if it's a huge problem first would be my thoughts. At least you have plenty of options carb-wise now :thumbup:

Chris.
That's the plan Chris, tbh the bike will only be a toy. I'll use it to go around the Island & if it behaves, maybe attempt the odd track day.

I'm quite happy with my carb selection & hopefully one of them will work well, but those 50's were a little bit too expensive this time of year :shh:

Once I dig the plasma cutter from under the tree & strip the wrapping off it, there'll be no stopping me :lol:

The friggin battery box will be a thing of the past, well.. hopefully :thumbup:
fabiostar wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:20 pm just a curved ball here. have you checked out any Lectron carbs? as in from race bikes of yore :eek2 . they run a powerjet system that for want of a better way of putting it, give the engine an extra juice boost.
Double curve (loop) ball Fab, if I find that these carbs will not work :eek2

I'm going to be looking into Turbo charging :beer:

Back in the day :roll: , I used to have a Renault 5 Turbo. I did a lot to it & it was a proper laff.

The design was a simple blow through carb arrangement. From turbo to intercooler to carb, job done. Sorting ignition retardation to avoid detonation might be a problem :think:

With all the tools I've had over the last year it should be possible. I've already got an eBay search for a Renault 5 Turbo turbo :crazy:

Never mind Pikey Hoarder, is there such a thing as a Carbaholic :lol: :thumbup:

Oh well, back to tackling charity muggers & buying stuff no one really needs. Aka Christmas shopping :lol:
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i know a few car hoarders used to be into 5 turbos so il have a word in a few ears...

what about Toyota startlet turbos? or Fiat uno units?
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Varastorm wrote: Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:00 am
sirch345 wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:44 pm Getting back to your project, see how the bike goes with what you have already, if it starts to run out of steam at higher rev's, see if it's a huge problem first would be my thoughts. At least you have plenty of options carb-wise now :thumbup:

Chris.
That's the plan Chris, tbh the bike will only be a toy. I'll use it to go around the Island & if it behaves, maybe attempt the odd track day.

I'm quite happy with my carb selection & hopefully one of them will work well, but those 50's were a little bit too expensive this time of year :shh:

Once I dig the plasma cutter from under the tree & strip the wrapping off it, there'll be no stopping me :lol:

The friggin battery box will be a thing of the past, well.. hopefully :thumbup:
Ah the first sign's of positive thinking on the battery box :clap: :clap:
fabiostar wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:20 pm just a curved ball here. have you checked out any Lectron carbs? as in from race bikes of yore :eek2 . they run a powerjet system that for want of a better way of putting it, give the engine an extra juice boost.
Varastorm wrote: Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:00 am Double curve (loop) ball Fab, if I find that these carbs will not work :eek2

I'm going to be looking into Turbo charging :beer:

Back in the day :roll: , I used to have a Renault 5 Turbo. I did a lot to it & it was a proper laff.

The design was a simple blow through carb arrangement. From turbo to intercooler to carb, job done. Sorting ignition retardation to avoid detonation might be a problem :think:

With all the tools I've had over the last year it should be possible. I've already got an eBay search for a Renault 5 Turbo turbo :crazy:

Never mind Pikey Hoarder, is there such a thing as a Carbaholic :lol: :thumbup:

Oh well, back to tackling charity muggers & buying stuff no one really needs. Aka Christmas shopping :lol:

:lol: :thumbup:

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Progress is super slow atm, life & weather have been a bit rubbish.

So I've found comfort in good ole eBay.

Walla..

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It's a 1944 Myford M type.

I always wanted a lathe, but with them being so big'n heavy & usually miles away I never thought it would ever happen.

Then I saw this, the previous owner has converted it to 3 phase with an inverter & it runs so smooth.

We carried it down to the shed & feck me it's heavy. More than likley it'll hardley get used, but when I need one it's there.

All thats needed now is room for it :roll: :thumbup:
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I have been busy, just not on the tracker project. I had too many jobses going on & every time I worked on the tracker I felt guilty.

So I have been doing some motorbike house keeping :)

I fitted a new (£60 Chinese) radiator to the Cbr600 which led to blowtorch medical attention to all the exhaust studs & a major carb overhaul. Job done & now runs like a watch again. Tick.

I also sorted out the Varadero's rear saggy ass shock issue once & for all. The Varadero (Project Varastorm) is now officially completed, bar fitting the new battery. So that's also sorted & runs like a watch too. Tick.

All that's left to do is make room for the Lathe which'll require some nicer weather to aid a major "Handy stuff/Pikey hoard" movement & it'll be all systems go.

I think :think: :thumbup:
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Right then, many moons ago I mentioned making a shortened twin shock swingarm from steel.

This was my original idea.

I originally was going to copy the internal dimentions of the Vtr swingarm pivots & turn down some metal rings/pivots so original bearings & oil seals could be fitted.

Then copy/use a say an old Cbr600f3 swingarm arm for the simple chain adjusters. After all they're only rectangle box section with slots milled on them. If the Cbr arms are no good, I was going to make some new arms from rectangle box & use the lathe to mill the adjustment slots in them.

Then weld it all together.

But, last night I came across this.

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It's a steel 2011'ish Cbf 1000 swingarm. I've measured & cross referenced as many things as I can & think it might work.

It's going to get chopped narrowed shorten widened... but it pivots the same way as the Vtr/Varadero on 20mm bearings for a shaft. The pivot bearings should be fit for the job & I've just had the adjusters that fit it also.

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I'm not sure what brake will be used & it could be another waste of time & money, but it's only cost me £30 all in :thumbup:
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You certainly are a busy man.
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top class lathe porn may i say..


so you can see the light at the end of that LONG tunnel :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

pictures or it didnt happen :lol:
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cant beat having a lathe in the shed, I got one just before Christmas.

but I bought something a fair bit smaller based on available room in shed and the reality that I will only use it for spacers and smaller items. ... I am not going to be doing flywheels, we have Fabio for that

for some reason I would rather have a 1930 british bit of kit than a modern Chinese toy, but I thoink that same philosophy shows up on all of in this forum....... otherwise we wouldn't be modifying VTRs :lol:
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AMCQ46 wrote: Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:20 pm cant beat having a lathe in the shed, I got one just before Christmas.

but I bought something a fair bit smaller based on available room in shed and the reality that I will only use it for spacers and smaller items. ... I am not going to be doing flywheels, we have Fabio for that

for some reason I would rather have a 1930 british bit of kit than a modern Chinese toy, but I thoink that same philosophy shows up on all of in this forum....... otherwise we wouldn't be modifying VTRs :lol:
how very true Al.... old is best and that goes for bikes/lathes/women. oh maybe not that last one lol

what did you get? lathe wise
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Varastorm wrote: Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:03 am Progress is super slow atm, life & weather have been a bit rubbish.

So I've found comfort in good ole eBay.

Walla..

Image

Image

Image

Image

It's a 1944 Myford M type.

I always wanted a lathe, but with them being so big'n heavy & usually miles away I never thought it would ever happen.

Then I saw this, the previous owner has converted it to 3 phase with an inverter & it runs so smooth.

We carried it down to the shed & feck me it's heavy. More than likley it'll hardley get used, but when I need one it's there.

All thats needed now is room for it :roll: :thumbup:
What another lathe owner, brilliant :clap: 8)
AMCQ46 wrote: Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:20 pm cant beat having a lathe in the shed, I got one just before Christmas.

but I bought something a fair bit smaller based on available room in shed and the reality that I will only use it for spacers and smaller items. ... I am not going to be doing flywheels, we have Fabio for that

for some reason I would rather have a 1930 british bit of kit than a modern Chinese toy, but I thoink that same philosophy shows up on all of in this forum....... otherwise we wouldn't be modifying VTRs :lol:
And you too Al, excellent :clap: 8)

Not that I'm envious or anything :wink: :lol:

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What lathes have you guys got then? Any top tips about tools or methods etc?

Those pictures of the lathe are from the sellers shed, you'd give me a right talking to if you saw it in mine :lol:

He also chucked in a load of "handy :roll: " stuff with it too. Things like a 4 jaw chuck, centres for the tailstock, dti gauge, whole set of new carbide tipped tools, the old motor & cast iron wheel/tensioner stuff & many more bits.

He also gave me a book called "The Amateur's Lathe" by Lawrence H. Sparey" cracking read" so much so that I get cramp in my legs after a good ole crap :lol:

I've just received a cheap magnetic dti gauge from ebay & a more expensive American item is on the way.

I initially bought just the lathe with the old electrics, but when I went to see it & saw it in action hooked up to the modern motor & inverter gizmo that I just had to have it. In his shed I came to the conclusion that he knew a lot more about lathes & electrics than me. He'd also put a lot of thought & work into this upgrade & it must of been for a reason.

The long (30 paces) to the car was difficult, in the car the conversation went a little like this..

Hi love, sorry, I didn't realise I'd been there over an hour..... Really nice guy, yeah.... he's also got some other bits for sale........ I was thinking....... if I/we don't get it all as a unit I'll/we'll regret it later..... how lucky I/we were going be to own such a fantastic life changing machine.... :lol:

I also had to promise a heap of other things, but hay ho, I/we got ourselves a lathe :beer:
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