Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by Wicky » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:35 am

Looks good & functional.

Are you going to add an underscorer to help direct the deformation?

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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by VTRDark » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:43 am

That is some genius use of tools and parts there. Incredible work :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by Varastorm » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:18 pm

Wicky wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:35 am
Looks good & functional.

Are you going to add an underscorer to help direct the deformation?

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That's the next stage Wicky, I should of done it before I welded it up. I'm also looking to strap the tops to prevent spreading.

I'm not too keen on having a dent but it's box & it has to happen.

The weathers poor today so I've been rebuilding the Tracker thread & putting the pictures back on.

Thanks for the comments guys :thumbup:
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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by Varastorm » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:04 pm

More goodies arrived today

Very happy indeed with the purchase, there are a few marks but I feel quite lucky to get one tbh.

Two would be nice, but it is 50mm inlet which will match the standard 50mm 2-1 collector pipe when it gets chopped.

I've also got some spare stainless 50mm tube & bends left over from the inlet manifold to fabricate a link pipe

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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by KermitLeFrog » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:14 pm

Varastorm wrote:More goodies arrived today

Very happy indeed with the purchase, there are a few marks but I feel quite lucky to get one tbh.

Two would be nice, but it is 50mm inlet which will match the standard 50mm 2-1 collector pipe when it gets chopped.

I've also got some spare stainless 50mm tube & bends left over from the inlet manifold to fabricate a link pipe

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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by sirch345 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:36 am

AMCQ46 wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:26 am
that is impressive on every aspect... imagination, design, fabrication, scavenge / recycling and speed of work .... every bit of this project just gets my full admiration :thumbup:
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Well put Al, I couldn't have said it better myself.

It's always very inspiring to read your posts Phil, and even better having the photo's to go with them :thumbup:

Thanks for re-adding the missing photo's too :D

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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by Varastorm » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:23 pm

Thanks for the positive comments guys, appreciated :thumbup:

As for the pictures Chris, what a pain in the butt tbh. Photobucket :thumbdown:

Anyway, back in the shed this morning & decided to bend stuff.

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The first try was without an under scorer to help direct the deformation when bending.

I knew it wouldn't work properly but I wanted to see what the outcome would be & here's the result.

I'll also add it was a bugger to remove & there was defiantly a change in force required as it was fifty pencing the box.

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The under scorer should of been sorted when I was fabricating the dolly but I forgot about it & Wicky kindly pointed it out to me. Thanks again Wicky. Btw, any luck finding the schematics for the Union Carbide welder :wink: :thumbup:

So I used a 2.5mm arc welding rod stripped of its flux & tacked it on both ends.

Its not permanent, it was an experiment to see what was the minimal height I could get away with, as I'm not too keen on an internal dent.

If you look close it has minimal signs of internal deformation, but you can see some slight fifty pencing on the inside.

I think this is the minimum under scorer height I can hope to get away with.

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The second try was with an under scorer to help direct the deformation when bending.

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I will need to do a 180° rear hoop, for that I think I'll have to strap the arms because of the outward forces.

But for now I'm happy :D
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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by sirch345 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:33 pm

I'm amazed at how much difference an under scorer makes :clap:

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Post by fabiostar » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:04 pm

impressive on all levels i have to say :clap: :clap: ...

cant wait to see how this yoke turns out....carry on bending...
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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by tony.mon » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:23 am

sirch345 wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:33 pm
I'm amazed at how much difference an under scorer makes :clap:

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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by Varastorm » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:46 am

Yesterday, after a good think I popped down the shed & started on the rear subframe.

This was the criteria.

1/ It will support my fat ass (strong).

2/ It supports the seat unit tidily (no wobbles) & fits cleanly to the tank to keep the horizontal tank/seat line of the original tracker.

3/ Minimal frame to be seen.

4/ Able to have room to hold the electronics discreetly. Battery, cdi, ignitor, rectifier, etc.

It took all day & what I finished with wasn't my ideal design but here it is anyway.

This is only the top hoop, once this is in place the lowers should be easy to fabricate to it..

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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by sirch345 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:05 pm

Good work Phil, you're certainly making progress :clap: your welding is looking good :thumbup:

Thanks for sharing the photo's :D

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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by alanfjones1411 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:57 pm

Looking good.Would like to see this in the flesh when it's finished :thumbup:
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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by Varastorm » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:28 pm

Cheers guys, I wasn't expecting to end up with this subframe shape & I'm not too sure if I like it either tbh.

Initially I was thinking of two straight bars like most bikes firing backwards from the spine. I tried it, but the curved seat looked like crap balanced on top.

The fibreglass seat dictated the swoopy frame shape. The seat looks great on the frame, but it looks as if I've bent it already when the seats removed :lol:

When finished, I'm hoping there'll be enough room to fit all the electrics under the seat, 2-3 bolts & I'm in.

Also, the conventional front tank mounting hasn't been welded in place yet. Currently the rear underside of the tank is touching the subframe & is dictating the height of the seat subframe & front tank mounting point.

Next job is to set up the bike outside to get the correct tank/seat lines. Hopefully to a horizontal'ish line similar to the original tracker bike.
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Re: Project Varatrackerstorm or Firetrackerdero.

Post by fabiostar » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:08 pm

i wish i had your skills Phil.. looking forward to each instalment of this bike :clap:
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