Beware the Helmet/ Dash Cam..

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podman
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Beware the Helmet/ Dash Cam..

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taken from another forum...not good news, my brother was investigated by the police last year after a cyclist was upset that he THOUGHT he passed him to close , my brother tried to explain that a lorry had swerved(he thought to avoid a piece of broken off pallet on the road) so he was a bit closer than he would have liked and that he both cycled and rode a bike, the chap wasnt interesetd and tapped his camera as if to say your in the shite and rode off the other way..

Of course the police couldnt see the lorry swerving from the footage so my brother was lucky to escape with a telling off..

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/dashcam-we...

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My Yank is showing....

I read the post and thought WHAT? Who cares, nothing at all can come from some bloke and his helmet cam footage, no traffic citation could ever be written (ok copper can write it, but it would not survive a trip to court)

Then I remembered, Im on this side of the pond ...

So your telling me, if some citizen tells the coppers "Hey I saw that guy....ride too fast, not signal correctly, get to close to me when passing, ect" The cops will issue a citation on that guys word and some one sided, non certified, less then full context self taken video footage?

That is just nuts......and sad you blokes have to deal with it... Just like the speed trap cameras, registration nonsense and insurance costs.....and the webbed fingers you must end up with due to riding in the rain 287 days a year :p

We have a sh1t ton of pretend riders here, only bring the bike out a few times a year...if they had to deal with what you guys do, it would cut the riding demographic in 1/2 I bet.... You blokes are some dedicated riders..good on ya
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a cab driver friend of mine is being taken to court by the police, the evidence supplied was from a push bike riding fiddler helmet cam, utter shite, the uk is a joke.
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But does it hold in court as evidance though. I'm not to sure. They are good for Insurance company purposes if you need to prove your not to blame for something but for legal cases that is something else entirley. TBH I don't even think they should show it if it's not admissable evidence because if one has seen it then your brain has allready used it to make an assumption, so whether it's admissable or not becomes irrelevant.

I wish it was a joke but it's not even funny what is going on over here now. It's basically a paid form of slavery where all ones money is fed back up through the system one way or another. It's not living, it's surviving. We should be having protest marches on the streets for what's happening here. What they do is create a crime, then companies bring out products for us to buy that to either help counteract that crime or fight for it. And then that crime rakes in more money to be paid in fines when broken.

Quite simply it's another form of control, consumerism and feeding more money higher up the chain. What we have to remember is that crime is a big business, probably the 2nd biggest business after warefare. Create crime which creates money just like creating wars create's money for the weopons manufacurers. When the fact of the matter is the biggest criminals are sitting at the top in the banking system, corporations and goverments.

I wish our court systems where more like the following....

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People love it though, don't they? Give the man in the street a little bit of power over his fellow man and it goes straight to his head.
Give him a dashcam and a website to upload it to and he thinks he's the 5-0.
I loathe them. They're usually found stuck to the windscreens of the myopic bell-end that found his licence in a Christmas cracker.
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A mate of mine (Multistrada Andy whom some of you will meet in NI (and dosen't ride a Multistrada any more)) runs a network cabling company with sign-written vans. They used to have a "Am I driving well" number on them but he got fed up with the number of people ringing up and telling lies. A van that he was in one day had a report that the driver (Andy) was drinking Vodka out of a bottle as he drove along. People are plonkers.
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send them some gay porn. :)
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alanfjones1411 wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:03 pm send them some gay porn. :)
Good idea. Can you send me some of the links you have?
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Dash cam evidence is admissable in court... though not all are used for prosecution as it seems to depend on severity of consequences / how much it can show leading up to event.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-43214927

or it can be simply shown to show to prove what a plonker the offender is *cue* Do you know who I am? I'm Ronnie Pickering! Who?
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bigbadjonno wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:27 pm They're usually found stuck to the windscreens of the myopic bell-end that found his licence in a Christmas cracker.
:thumbup: :lol: Wise insight my friend and so true.

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time to get a smaller number plate me thinks :eek2 :eek2
the older i get,the faster i was :lol:
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